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Are buyers agents worth it?
Geoff81
#1 Posted : Friday, January 27, 2012 2:25:19 PM(UTC)
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I'm not a seasoned negotiator so am thinking about buyers agents. Do they really earn their fee in the amount they can save through good negotiation?
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#2 Posted : Saturday, January 28, 2012 2:44:15 PM(UTC)
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I think they can be very good (assuming you get a good one and stipulate what you want).

I have bought a few through a BA and they have achieved prices that I couldn't (inside knowledge etc). If you have a BA that buys often they have contacts and often agents ring them when something is a good deal, or has been reduced etc. Sometimes they even get calls before a property is listed.

BA's are not only for newby's and time poor people. Find one that specializes in the area you are interested in.
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#3 Posted : Sunday, January 29, 2012 10:42:10 AM(UTC)
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As Addcited has said you'll need to give the BA clear paramters that fit youor needs.

Another key issue is for you to establish your strategy and long term plans before you start buying. Some places in Australia lend themselves towards a capital growth strategy and others lend themselves towards a cashflow strategy. For what it is worth neither strategy is right or wrong - some people, their goals, plans, personal circumstances and aspirations suit certain strategies (or adaptions thereof) better than others.

My 2c worth buying property to save tax is a big 'No No' - the property must fundamentally stand up first and then any tax deductions are the icing on the cake and not the cake itself.
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 31, 2012 9:45:17 PM(UTC)
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Hi Geoff81

I recently used for the first time a BA. I knew the type on rental investment I wanted and spent two days in the town looking around and chatting to agents as well. For me this was invaluable part of due diligence. I then found a property that fitted my requirements and got the BA to inspect and report. Fortunately, his views were the same as mine and I then asked him to make an offer. As he knew the selling agent he was able to demonstrate we were serious, but also pointing out we had other properties to consider. I decided with the BA on the offer level which was some way off the asking terms and after a few hours it was agreed. On this basis alone, the BA was of huge value in the amount he negotiated off the asking price and following exchange the BA plugged me into his local network of professionals.

Do they earn their fee? In this case absolutely.BigGrin

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Antony
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#5 Posted : Thursday, February 02, 2012 9:24:32 PM(UTC)
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MyPropAU- I'm a bit confused about why you paid a BA when you found the property yourself and did the DD yourself?

Was it just to confirm that you were doing the right thing and to negotiate for you?
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#6 Posted : Friday, February 03, 2012 8:15:10 AM(UTC)
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Regarding the initial question about discount on buy price.

Sometimes as a Buyers Agency we buy genuine bargains. This not the main way we are adding value in my experience. A few things are normally working against securing a bargain buy including the fact that a majority of investors are buying in the same price ranges, locations and property types. When you are looking to buy a standard property in very good condition and promising location then the potential to wait for a great price is still there but most likely someone else will buy it before you if price is your highest priority. It is nice when it happens though, recent purchase this year of a townhouse we bought for 450k had previously had a 500k offer rejected and last advertised price of 480k+ after starting off at offers 520k+, the existing good working relationship we had with the selling agent was a key in knowing this was a possible target.

If you are targeting deals with a twist such as renovation, development potential, higher price ranges then the potential for great buy prices is much larger, when you are buying a ready to rent townhouse for 400k as close to the CBD as you can get in a desirable location the potential for discounts are much less. You can adjust these general ideas to suit overall market conditions as well which in Brisbane for the last 18 months have been buyer friendly.

The main ways a quality BA will add value I believe are.

> Securing a quality property for the long term and at a price that isn't over the mark.
> Always being on location and ready to act quickly when opportunity presents.
> Working with you to meet your stated goals and criteria
Allen Real Estate
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Allen Real Estate
#7 Posted : Friday, February 03, 2012 8:19:35 AM(UTC)
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Addicted in reply to your query:

MyPropAU- I'm a bit confused about why you paid a BA when you found the property yourself and did the DD yourself?

Was it just to confirm that you were doing the right thing and to negotiate for you?


Most likely this was a partial service just to secure the chosen property and not a full 'search and secure'.

Negotiation is more than just price as well, conditions of the contract can be very important and are a key way to add value. A 6 month settlement could be more valuable to the buyer than a reduced 10k buy price and also suit the seller for various reasons.
Allen Real Estate
Buyers' Agent - Brisbane
1300 443 581 www.allenrealestate.com.au
Geoff81
#8 Posted : Friday, February 03, 2012 2:55:56 PM(UTC)
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Wow, thanks guys. I think I fit into the newbie/time poor category. But maybe I should just reprioritise things so that I have more time for property research.
Jamie M
#9 Posted : Monday, February 06, 2012 7:59:18 PM(UTC)
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I wouldn't have a problem with using a BA.

So far, my properties have been relatively close to where I live.

For my next purchase, I'm looking to invest further afield. I don't have time to carry out a lot of research but I know the type of property and area(s) I'd like to buy. I see the BA's fee as money well spent - considering that I can continue to get on with business and there's a good chance that they'll be able to negotiate a better deal than I could have arranged on my own.

If I was looking up in Brisbane I'd be giving Andrew a call.

Cheers

Jamie
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